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Would this stock daytrading method work?

June 7, 2010 - 7:51 pm 4 Comments

I was gonna get a real time quote service on the OTC and pink sheet stocks.
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I was gonna check the highest % gainers from start of market. Read up on news on why they may be up and then buy shares and sell them a few hours later. I can get all this info live so their won’t be much delay from the time I read to buying shares.

Would this work? I wanted to make only about $50 a week.
Come on guys. anyone actually try it instead of just giving me joke answers?

Not all of them go up on pump and dump. I said I was talking about the ones with news that came out on them.

If you want to day trade, news is of no importance because it comes too late anyway. The only thing that counts is the price movement itself, which is influenced by the people that have seen the news *before* you.

So… look for volatile stocks and play those with a trendfollowing or breakout system. Stay in the trade as long as it keeps going in your direction. Use up and down trends.

You need some starting capital, as you want to risk only a small percentage of your capital on a trade. But more important, trades that are too small will have their profits being eaten by brokers fees. The name of the game is “staying alive”, long enough to catch the big one which comes once a week or so.

Last bit of advice: paper trade your system first and do it honestly for a few months.

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Autotrading with Stock Advisor Group?

June 8, 2010 - 12:09 pm 1 Comment

Hello guys, I was wondering what anyone thought about Autotrading. I’m currently a value investor but have been getting hammered lately. I saw this site called www.stockadvisorgroup.com and they basically pull all the trades for you. They seem to have a really good track record for the up and down markets and my brokerage TradeKing offers the Autotrade option. However, this site is basically a day trading site. For all you guys out there who are day traders, does it work? I’ve always been under the impression that daytrading was a losers game and that buy and hold for a long time was the only true way to go in investing. I would appreciate info from those who’ve had success with investing. Thanks!

The vast majority of people who day trade lose money. There are no simple ways to make money day trading. I am highly suspicious of anyone who claims you can make money using any stock trading computer program. Often there are hidden catches. For instance, even though they are supposed to be automatic, they often require you to put in your own parameters. Trying to figure out how to set the parameters is very difficult. When you lose money you don’t know whether to blame yourself for putting in the wrong parameters, or blame the program.

I suggest you stick to buy and hold. If you are losing to much on your stocks, consider switching to a low fee, no load mutual fund at Vanguard such as Windsor or Windsor II. You may not be diversified enough. Read these websites about how hard it is to make money day trading.

DAYTRADING??? what are the requirements??

June 8, 2010 - 11:21 am 6 Comments

How much money do I need to begin with??
What is the best company to go with??
Will it affect my taxes??
Whats a good stock for next week??

Depending on what type of day trading you are going to engage and what type of firms you are going to setup your account with, requirements can be very different.

There are different types of trader and there are at least two types of trader defined by SEC’s requirements :
If you buy a stock, hold it for at least one day before you sell it, you are short-term trader. For this type of trader, there is no official minimum account balance requirement from the regulary bodies. You will however need to meet the minimum account balance requirement (usually quite low) set by the brokerage firm you use.

If you are thinking about buy and sell a stock position within one day, you are considered as a pattern day trader. Rules and regulation for Pattern day traders are very different. The regulation requires all pattern day trader account meet a minimum balance requirement of $25000 to open an account. You will be able to borrow margin up to 4 times of your equity value. (For details, please contact a brokerage firm).

No single best company out there will fit all but you should at least look for companies that offer:
1. Comprehesive service channels (branch, phone, internet, touch tone)
2. Reliable and advanced trading platform ( prefer software based platform that you can install in your computer as a standalone program)
3. Reasonable commission schedule with efficient and fair execution.
4. Streaming news service
5. Technical and trading specialist team who can help you during all trading sessions ( pre-, after and regular trading session)
6. Up to the minute account status update

The following companies are worth to look into:

Schwab
Fidelity
Etrade
TD Ameritrade

Some people open account with firms called "day trading company"… they will lure people by telling them that they let you trade with their money… They are not registered brokerage firm or investment firm, and they are actually in a gray area where we do not have any comprehensive regulation to regulate in the United States. Their practice is to charge you fees on each trading transaction while allowing you to use their asset to trade. Some of them may charge you fees for the asset they let you leverage on. So, you can bring in $5000 and they may "lend" you $100,000 for day trading. Your account however will be monitored by their system… that if you lose more than the principle value you brought in, they will sell off your position and close your account. Anyway, this is not a good way to do trading and is highly not recommended.

Capital gain from day trading or short-term trading will be considered as short-term gain (less than 12 months) and will be taxed as your ordinary income. So, it may or may not affect your taxes depends on what’s your current tax bracket and how much you gain or lose from the trading practice in a particular year.

From your questions above, I strongly feel that you are not ready for doing day trading ( and any kind of trading) at this moment. Day traders will look for stocks with higher intraday fluctuation as they usually has leverage on the position and thus will have a very short holding period of any position. High intraday fluctation means they can profit by buying and selling that stock in very short period of time. Also, a truely skillful day trader make money no matter the market is going up or down by playing both side of the market. You should put some efforts on learning about technical analysis, risk management and train up your charting skills. Do some paper trades to gain expereince before putting your real money in the market is very essential too. With the skill, sense and expereince, you will have your own ideas of what are good picks for any particular trading day instead of relying on hot tips from strangers. I would recommend you to start with short-term trading with cash account ( no margin) when you feel you are ready.

Best luck to you and hope this helps.

Cheers.
Sal

do you know the best hour to make a entry to make a day trading?

June 8, 2010 - 11:21 am 3 Comments

it is a question in relation with the usa stock market for daytrading (buy and sell in the same day)

Just watch the volume. In the middle of the day, it’s usually pretty dead; no movement.

The open is kinda dangerous, but about 9:45-10:00 am EST is usually the first reversal in direction, or confirmation that the trend will continue. This trend lasts for the next hour or so, or into the lunch hour.

Between 1:30 – 2:00 pm is the next volume trading session.

Just look for the big moves on the charts.

Mostly because of the open resting orders from overnight, they say the Open of the market is controlled by emotion and novices. The close is controlled by Professionals. So the trend here is more dependable.

Daytrading currency ETFs?

June 8, 2010 - 11:21 am 1 Comment

I was looking at a couple names-GBB and ERO-and they look fairly predictable for day trades. Does anybody have experience daytrading currency ETFs? Do they trade like stocks? What are some good ones that trade in predictable ranges? Thanks!

Hmmm…not sure if you are looking at what I am, but when I look up these symbols, I am finding very narrow daily price ranges, and very low volume. This makes these very poor candidates for daytrading. You are better of trading currency futures or opening Forex account if you want to daytrade.

On the other, there are some nice stock index ETFs to daytrades…check out the Proshares Ultra type of ETFs, as they offer double the volatility of the index they are mimicking to give you more bang for your buck!

Good Trading!

Scott Cole
www.kungfutrader.com
www.bestdaytradingstocks.com

How can I earn money by Daytrading in Indian stocks?

June 8, 2010 - 11:21 am 8 Comments


I don’t know about India, but here in the USA, 80% of day traders lose money. That you are asking the question suggests to me that you will NOT be in the other 20%.
My advice is to take your time and invest wisely over the long run instead of trying a get-rich-quick gamble.

day trading stock buying power?

June 8, 2010 - 11:16 am 3 Comments

I currently have $4,000 in a discount brokerage account. This allows me to buy up to $12,000 worth of stocks by using margin. Since I was off work this past week I decided to buy a couple stocks and not hold them more than a day or two. The brokerage firm said I am now considered a patterned day trader and will restrict letting me buy stocks. They say I need $30,000 to be a daytrader. What is the difference if I make a lot of stock trades or not? Does anyone understand this daytrading rule and why I get to be considered a patterned daytrader just because I made about 3 stock trades a day?

You have been labeled a pattern day trader because you have made 4 "round trip" trades within a 5-day period. The pattern daytrader rule is not your firms rule-it is a rule that all investors must abide by, according to FINRA and the SEC. It is the SEC’s designation, and not up to your firm to decide. The only difference here seems to be that while the normal minimum equity for this type of activity is $25,000, your firm is requiring an additional $5,000, which they can do, since this is more strict than the federal requirement.

It is a risk control measure, in part because of the higher amount of buying power that you are receiving-whle you may be very careful with your loss control, and you may make money making day trades, most people do not, especially accounts with lower balances. Inexperienced traders, big and small, tend to hold on to their losers longer, and cash out of their profits too quickly. This activity tends to create an overall drawdown in most active trading accounts. The SEC places this rule in place so that smaller accounts do not end up with negative balances-to ensure that traders have enough equity to cover any losses that have been incurred.

If it is your first time, you should be eligible for a one-time exception. Call them and explain that you were not aware of the rule. It happens all the time. They probably don’t want to lose you as a client over this, but they have to follow the rules just like everyone else. You may have to put in a request to the margin department, so be patient and persistant. Good luck trading and remember to keep track of how many you have made, so that this doesn’t happen again until you have equity that is above the minimum.

Am I Considered Dependent or Independent?

June 8, 2010 - 11:16 am 4 Comments

- I took out loan to pay for university this year
- My dad sometimes gives me my allowance
- I don’t make any monthly income other than some stock daytrading

Thank you

How big was that loan? Since *you* will be paying it back, it counts as support you provided yourself.

See the support test in irs publication 501 and figure it out. If you supported yourself, you are not a dependent. If you didn’t support yourself and you are under 23 and in school, then you are a dependent.

How do I learn how to daytrade?

June 8, 2010 - 11:16 am 3 Comments

I am extremely interested in daytrading but truly don’t understand the full amount of what daytrading is. Whether by internet or watching the stock reports on various t.v. outlets. Can someone please explain to me what it maybe. Thank you

There are some good daytrading books for sale that you need to read. You need at least about $10k to get going. Less than that and the fees will eat you up. I’d suggest you stick with only one stock and learn it well. Go all in then all out. Most people have way too many different stocks. You have to keep accurate records of every buy and sale. All stocks go up and down, pick something with good volume, and activity. Stock reports etc. don’t mean much, you just have to watch your one stock, minute by minute. You have to be able to sell when it’s losing. You set stops, it goes down a preset amount and you sell no matter what. You need to study charts for at least 2 or more weeks before you buy anything. You have something like a 70% chance of losing because even if you were to win 50% you pay income taxes and fees.

A good book is Beginners Guide to Daytrading by Toni Turner.

some finance questions. What’s daytrading? what are options? What are brokerage costs? When to sell?

June 8, 2010 - 11:16 am 2 Comments

Yep, a lot of questions unanswered.

I learned about mutual funds, but I’ve been hearing a lot of bad stuff about them lately. I wonder what are the costs of just getting a broker or a brokerage service. If I wanted to invest 2 grand in some stocks just to practice, how much would it cost me to buy and sell as opposed to like expense ratios and all that?

what are stock options?

My finance teacher taught us how to monitor stuff, but she never taught us anything about selling. When do small cap stocks peak? When do you give up on them?

What is daytrading? Is it costly because of all the brokerage fees?

What are some good cheap brokerage services to start with?

Daytrading is what the name implies, trading stocks during the course of the day. Daytraders usually do not hold many positions (either long or short) over the end of business and look to close out their positions by the end of the day. Daytraders usually trade based on a stock’s technical analysis and try to capture daily movements in the stock’s price. Because daytrading involves many trades, daytraders usually use an online brokerage service with the lowest commissions per trade. There are some such services that only charge a few dollars per trade because of the volume. Even firms like Fidelity, Etrade and Schwab only charge about $10 per trade and there are some that charge less.

Regular "full service" brokerage firms, like Merrill Lynch, usually charge over $100 per trade if you use a broker (instead of their online service). Average mutual funds typically charge expense fees of between 0.50% (for the cheapest funds like Vanguard) to over 1% of your account balance each year. Load funds can charge up to 5.75% of your initial mutual fund purchase (which typically is just a commission that goes to the distributing broker).

Small cap stocks come in and out of favor. They had quite a run after the dot.com crash and many pros expected large caps to start to outperform small caps in the last 2 years. The theory is that small caps have a more difficult time getting credit than large caps during credit contractions. You could compare the indices that represent large cap (the S&P 500) versus small caps (the Russell 2000) to compare relative value of the two. You can also look at the chart of these indices. Like I said, the period of outperformance is cyclical, but it is difficult to call the turn when one investors will start to favor one over the other. Better to be invested in both. However, I have read several articles (mutual fund manager and Forbes columnist David Dremen is a proponent) that say that small caps always outperform large caps over a longer term (especially small cap value stocks).(The growth versus value argument is a separate one). There are some great small cap mutual funds, like the Royce Funds, that have performed in all types of markets for long periods.

When to sell is the most difficult decision in investing. There are always plenty of stocks to buy even in the worst of times. In almost any economic time, there is a demand for some goods and services and some part of the world is usually growing (the exception would be a worldwide recession). The hard part is determining when an investment is not working out and you don’t want to give it any more time, or when it’s time to take a profit. Most of us are not good at judging the actual earnings growth within the company and to know when the growth of a company is fully priced in the stock. It helps to look at the stock chart to see if the stock is leveling off or starting to turn down. Of course, some stocks pause or pullback before resuming their upward trend. Therefore, you have to use technical analysis along with the fundamentals to see if the growth is slowing. Remember the stock market anticipates events so by the time a company reports that its growth is slowing, the stock price will already have started downward. You have to read the company’s earnings reports to see what they say about future growth. They sometimes mentions statistics like "backlog" which tells you how much future sales they already have lined up. Also, a company’s "profit margin" should be growing as sales expand. You can also compare the company’s expected future price to earnings ratio versus its earning growth. A general rule is that you should not pay (i.e. buy a stock) for a p/e ratio of more than 1 times a company’s future earnings growth rate. (in other words, if a company is growing earnings at 40% each year and will maintain that growth rate, then don’t pay more than a p/e multiple of 40 for the stock. At such a p/e ratio, the market is telling you that the growth in earnings is already priced into the stock price. Some people pay up to 2 times the growth rate for company’s with exceptionally high growth rates and no competitors, but because of the law of large numbers, growth rates have to decrease as the company gets larger.)

Above all, if you buy a stock that turns out to be a good investment, don’t get greedy and think that it will always go up in value. Even the best companies’ stocks level off after large movements. Sell part of your position on the way up and don’t worry about paying taxes or brokerage commissions (better to have a profit then a loss). Don’t worry if the stock continues to rise. If you’ve done your homework, then you should start to recognize when the stock is losing some of its steam. Nowadays, there is almost no such thing as "buy and hold." Almost ever great stock has had a period where it leveled off and did nothing (so-called digesting its gains) sometimes for years, or started a long gradual decline. Mostly, because when a company is starting to perform, it draws the attention of the investment community and they buy the stock causing the price to rise. At some point, investors capture their gains and move on to the next opportunity. Many people get "caught" buying expensive stocks that have already peaked and ride them back down. This can happen even though the company continues to report good earnings growth. When a stock does not go up and stay up on a good earnings report, it means that this news is already factored in to the stock price and no new buyers are being attracted. A stock needs new buyers to push the price up. Like I said, it is the most difficult thing to judge. Good luck.

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